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Re: Surprise! Surprise! The U.S. Has Been Secretly Training Syrian R
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff
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North Atlantic Treaty Organization
June 25, 2013
NATO and Colombia open channel for future cooperation
NATO Deputy Secretary General Ambassador Alexander Vershbow and the Defence Minister of Colombia, Juan Carlos Pinzon Bueno, on Tuesday (25 June 2013) signed an Agreement on the Security of Information, an accord that will allow NATO and Colombia to explore future cooperation and consultation in areas of common interest. "As an Alliance of democracies, we are gratified when countries sharing similar values reach out to us," the Deputy Secretary General said during his meeting with Minister Pinzon Bueno.
Ambassador Vershbow said that Allies have agreed to pursue tailored cooperation with Colombia on a case-by-case basis, in areas of common interest and that by signing this accord, NATO and Colombia stress their shared interest in consultation and cooperation. The Security of Information Agreement does not formally recognise Colombia as a NATO partner but constitutes a first step for future cooperation in the security field. It will facilitate the participation of Colombia in a number of NATO activities. Colombia has already participated in the 2011 NATO Conference on Building Integrity, which was held in Monterey, California. “Colombia’s expertise in enhancing integrity in the military is precisely the kind of substantive contribution that exemplifies the added value of cooperation,” the NATO Deputy Secretary said.
The Ambassador added that NATO has a wide range of partners because global challenges require global solutions. “Cooperative security, through the development of partnerships, is one of the Alliance’s key priorities. NATO’s partnerships over the past two decades have been a real success story,” the Deputy Secretary General underlined. He added that the Alliance has a large network of partners engaged with us in a variety of ways.
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North Atlantic Treaty Organization
June 25, 2013
NATO and Colombia open channel for future cooperation
NATO Deputy Secretary General Ambassador Alexander Vershbow and the Defence Minister of Colombia, Juan Carlos Pinzon Bueno, on Tuesday (25 June 2013) signed an Agreement on the Security of Information, an accord that will allow NATO and Colombia to explore future cooperation and consultation in areas of common interest. "As an Alliance of democracies, we are gratified when countries sharing similar values reach out to us," the Deputy Secretary General said during his meeting with Minister Pinzon Bueno.
Ambassador Vershbow said that Allies have agreed to pursue tailored cooperation with Colombia on a case-by-case basis, in areas of common interest and that by signing this accord, NATO and Colombia stress their shared interest in consultation and cooperation. The Security of Information Agreement does not formally recognise Colombia as a NATO partner but constitutes a first step for future cooperation in the security field. It will facilitate the participation of Colombia in a number of NATO activities. Colombia has already participated in the 2011 NATO Conference on Building Integrity, which was held in Monterey, California. “Colombia’s expertise in enhancing integrity in the military is precisely the kind of substantive contribution that exemplifies the added value of cooperation,” the NATO Deputy Secretary said.
The Ambassador added that NATO has a wide range of partners because global challenges require global solutions. “Cooperative security, through the development of partnerships, is one of the Alliance’s key priorities. NATO’s partnerships over the past two decades have been a real success story,” the Deputy Secretary General underlined. He added that the Alliance has a large network of partners engaged with us in a variety of ways.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:08 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
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North Atlantic Treaty Organization
Allied Command Operations
June 25, 2013
Exercise Anatolian Eagle is a huge success for the E-3A Component
Story by Staff Sgt. R. Michael Longoria
Public Affairs Office, E-3A Component
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Hundreds of participates from several nations, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates, attended the exercise.
The scenarios for the exercise consist of a "Blue Team" which attacks tactical and strategic targets in a "Red Land" during Combined Air Operations. The Red Land is defended by opposing combat aircraft and surface-to-air missile systems.
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The E-3A Component is pleased with the outcome of an exercise in Konya, Turkey, which has resulted in an improved working relationship with their international partners. Exercise Anatolian Eagle 13-2 saw the participation of two NATO AWACS and more than 50 fighter jets from various nations. The operation took place from 10 June to 21 June.
"We are here to provide you with a full-spectrum of airborne command and control capabilities,” said 2nd Lt. Eric Lundberg. "As NATO's eye in the sky, we can provide a 360 degree air picture of the battle space.”
Hundreds of participates from several nations, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates, attended the exercise.
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Anatolian Eagle, which started in 2001, is an air force exercise hosted by the Turkish air force. These exercises simulate a war-time environment with a variety of difficulty. After detailed planning, all training is monitored with a computer to help test knowledge, abilities and find deficiencies of the participants.
"Sharing our experiences will help us work together in the future,” said Turkish Maj. Gen. Yilmaz Öskaya, 3rd Main Jet Base commander.
The scenarios for the exercise consist of a "Blue Team" which attacks tactical and strategic targets in a "Red Land" during Combined Air Operations. The Red Land is defended by opposing combat aircraft and surface-to-air missile systems.
During the exercise, AWACS aircraft gave command and control support to Blue Forces while a land-based radar gave support to the Red Forces.
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North Atlantic Treaty Organization
Allied Command Operations
June 25, 2013
Exercise Anatolian Eagle is a huge success for the E-3A Component
Story by Staff Sgt. R. Michael Longoria
Public Affairs Office, E-3A Component
====
Hundreds of participates from several nations, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates, attended the exercise.
The scenarios for the exercise consist of a "Blue Team" which attacks tactical and strategic targets in a "Red Land" during Combined Air Operations. The Red Land is defended by opposing combat aircraft and surface-to-air missile systems.
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The E-3A Component is pleased with the outcome of an exercise in Konya, Turkey, which has resulted in an improved working relationship with their international partners. Exercise Anatolian Eagle 13-2 saw the participation of two NATO AWACS and more than 50 fighter jets from various nations. The operation took place from 10 June to 21 June.
"We are here to provide you with a full-spectrum of airborne command and control capabilities,” said 2nd Lt. Eric Lundberg. "As NATO's eye in the sky, we can provide a 360 degree air picture of the battle space.”
Hundreds of participates from several nations, including Turkey, Saudi Arabia and The United Arab Emirates, attended the exercise.
"I'
Anatolian Eagle, which started in 2001, is an air force exercise hosted by the Turkish air force. These exercises simulate a war-time environment with a variety of difficulty. After detailed planning, all training is monitored with a computer to help test knowledge, abilities and find deficiencies of the participants.
"Sharing our experiences will help us work together in the future,” said Turkish Maj. Gen. Yilmaz Öskaya, 3rd Main Jet Base commander.
The scenarios for the exercise consist of a "Blue Team" which attacks tactical and strategic targets in a "Red Land" during Combined Air Operations. The Red Land is defended by opposing combat aircraft and surface-to-air missile systems.
During the exercise, AWACS aircraft gave command and control support to Blue Forces while a land-based radar gave support to the Red Forces.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:09 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
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Interfax
June 25, 2013
Russian Federation Council member anticipates new leaks concerning U.S. security services
MOSCOW: The drama involving NSA leaker Edward Snowden and the disclosure of classified information regarding the operation of U.S. special services will not be the last of its kind, says Igor Morozov, a veteran of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) and currently a member of the Federation Council international affairs committee.
"We can talk about a trend with some degree of certainty today. There is the case of WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange, who has been taking refuge at the Ecuadorian embassy in London for more than a year for fear of extradition. There is the case of Pvt. Bradley Manning, who has confessed to passing classified documents to the website WikiLeaks, and now we have Edward Snowden. It looks like these people will not be the last to disclose classified information on U.S. special services," Morozov said in a Tuesday interview with Interfax.
"These people position themselves as lone fighters and see their mission in informing society of unsanctioned access to people's private lives by special services," he said.
Snowden has done a civic deed, and his actions are motivated by the desire to defend human rights and freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. constitution, Morozov said.
"Snowden is a model of a U.S. citizen raised in respect for the right of inviolability of privacy, and from this viewpoint, he is a hero to many Americans, and this is why a movement in his defense is gaining momentum in the U.S., which already numbers dozens of thousands of supporters," he said.
Morozov pointed out that Snowden is acting not for financial gain. "And this circumstance is appealing to a lot of people. But, at the same time, making public unlawful actions of special services, Snowden has doomed himself to spend the rest of his life underground, because American special services will do everything possible and even impossible to find him and bring him to justice at home," he said.
Morozov suggested that Snowden is working with professionals who have carefully planned the route of his travel and will ensure his legal defense.
"The fact that the not unknown jurist Baltasar Garzon, who became famous after issuing an arrest warrant for former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, is a consultant to WikiLeaks speaks for itself. This man thoroughly knows all nuances of international law," Morozov said.
There is a reason why Snowden has chosen the transit zone of the Sheremetyevo Airport, Morozov said. "In this transit zone, neither a passenger nor their luggage can be subjected to additional searches or inspections. Moreover, access to the transit zone is available only to someone with a special pass issued by the airport administration,
The Russian Justice Ministry has repeatedly invited the U.S. to conclude a bilateral extradition agreement or join identical international treaties, Morozov said. "However, all of our initiatives have remained unanswered," he said.
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Interfax
June 25, 2013
Russian Federation Council member anticipates new leaks concerning U.S. security services
MOSCOW: The drama involving NSA leaker Edward Snowden and the disclosure of classified information regarding the operation of U.S. special services will not be the last of its kind, says Igor Morozov, a veteran of the Russian Foreign Intelligence Service (SVR) and currently a member of the Federation Council international affairs committee.
"We can talk about a trend with some degree of certainty today. There is the case of WikiLeaks and its founder Julian Assange, who has been taking refuge at the Ecuadorian embassy in London for more than a year for fear of extradition. There is the case of Pvt. Bradley Manning, who has confessed to passing classified documents to the website WikiLeaks, and now we have Edward Snowden. It looks like these people will not be the last to disclose classified information on U.S. special services," Morozov said in a Tuesday interview with Interfax.
"These people position themselves as lone fighters and see their mission in informing society of unsanctioned access to people's private lives by special services," he said.
Snowden has done a civic deed, and his actions are motivated by the desire to defend human rights and freedoms guaranteed by the U.S. constitution, Morozov said.
"Snowden is a model of a U.S. citizen raised in respect for the right of inviolability of privacy, and from this viewpoint, he is a hero to many Americans, and this is why a movement in his defense is gaining momentum in the U.S., which already numbers dozens of thousands of supporters," he said.
Morozov pointed out that Snowden is acting not for financial gain. "And this circumstance is appealing to a lot of people. But, at the same time, making public unlawful actions of special services, Snowden has doomed himself to spend the rest of his life underground, because American special services will do everything possible and even impossible to find him and bring him to justice at home," he said.
Morozov suggested that Snowden is working with professionals who have carefully planned the route of his travel and will ensure his legal defense.
"The fact that the not unknown jurist Baltasar Garzon, who became famous after issuing an arrest warrant for former Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet, is a consultant to WikiLeaks speaks for itself. This man thoroughly knows all nuances of international law," Morozov said.
There is a reason why Snowden has chosen the transit zone of the Sheremetyevo Airport, Morozov said. "In this transit zone, neither a passenger nor their luggage can be subjected to additional searches or inspections. Moreover, access to the transit zone is available only to someone with a special pass issued by the airport administration,
The Russian Justice Ministry has repeatedly invited the U.S. to conclude a bilateral extradition agreement or join identical international treaties, Morozov said. "However, all of our initiatives have remained unanswered," he said.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
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Voice of Russia
June 23, 2013
U.S. courts Taliban to keep nine bases in Afghanistan – Zalmay Gulzad
Audio at URL above
The situation in Afghanistan after more than 12 years of U.S. occupation is getting worse by the day. The United States continues to support and make deals with the Taliban in order to guarantee that their designs for the country are fulfilled, most importantly keeping 9 military bases in the country after the official withdrawal of troops in 2014. President Karzai and the Afghan people are tired of the U.S. double-dealing and have decided to stop all negotiations.
Hello! This is John Robles, I’m talking with Dr. Zalmay Gulzad. He is a Professor at Harold Washington College in Chicago in the Political Science Department.
Robles: Hello Sir! How are you this evening?
Gulzad: Very good, thank you very much.
Robles: First question: can you give our listeners a little bit of an update? And we’d really like to hear what you think about this situation currently in Afghanistan, especially with this kind switch of events that are happening right now, as far as Russia supporting Karzai etc?
Gulzad: The situation is that the area is totally in chaos. Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and Turkey and all these areas are in trouble.
What Afghanistan really wanted to have is: the Afghans must lead the peace talk, that was the goal. What happened was that the United States as usual, we have seen the history, the United States has this very strong alliance with the Pakistani military, and also with the Pakistani secret police, the ISI. Everybody in the world knows that Talibans are supported by the Pakistani military and by the ISI secret police of Pakistan.
So, Americans made a deal with them like: “Okay, we want to have nine bases in Afghanistan. This negotiation is going on and while it is going on, we want you to create a situation for us, to tell the Taliban to come to Qatar and sit down with us and talk, we could create something that they would not attack the American bases in Afghanistan and also would not attack the United States from Afghanistan.”
So, if that is happening, America and Taliban are going to talk, the Pakistani military and the ISI, because they are good allies and the United States is giving $2 billion a year to the Pakistani military, they said “Fine!”, they created this.
Robles: Karzai, wasn’t he agreeing to the same thing, to allow bases to remain in Afghanistan? So what happened there?
Gulzad: Karzai has agreed mostly that nine bases should be given to Afghanistan. One condition isd there that most Afghans are asking the United States, that the United States should push the Pakistani military not to support any more, while the Americans and the NATO are leaving, they should not support the Taliban, so that Afghanistan has peace. But the United States is largely saying to Afghans that we cannot do that. So, the objective is this: America wants to make a secret deal, to sell Afghanistan to Pakistan and to the Taliban and the Afghans are not going to accept it.
The other thing is the building which was dedicated to the Afghan Taliban, they’ve put the name on it: Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, and they were flying the Taliban flag. Immediately the Afghan Government and the Afghan officials, they objected to that, that is why Karzai got mad.
Okay, this is supposed to be: you are recognizing Taliban as an entity. And Taliban also used that office to send their delegation to Iran. They were trying to use it. So, that’s why today’s situation got very bad.
Karzai says that we are not going to talk to you anymore about the American troops staying in Afghanistan until things change. So then Kerry, called Karzai in Kabul and he said that the Taliban will not fly the American, I mean the Taliban flag over the building and also they will not call it the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
So, the problem is this: the mistrust between the Afghan Government, the Afghan people and the United States, is because the United States always supported the Taliban, (Al Qaeda is supported by the Taliban), and the United States is having this secret alliance with the Pakistani military, even though there was some sort of election in Pakistan after which the Muslim League, which is a very religious party, won the election. But still, the military is in control.
Nawaz Sharif will become the Prime Minister, he was overthrown by Gen Musharraf in 1991. He was in jail, he was in exile in London and Saudi Arabia but he’s back now, he is the Prime Minister, but he is afraid of the military. The military is calling all the shots in Pakistan.
Robles: What are the chances right now of things being worked out, I mean where do you see the Taliban going? What is the future looking like right now?
Gulzad: The future looks like this: United States wanted to make a deal with Pakistan and with Taliban in order to get their bases, because the United States always looks for their own interests, short term.
As I said before, the nine bases are very important because they are in the north of Afghanistan, west Afghanistan, central Afghanistan, out of Afghanistan and east Afghanistan.
East Afghanistan, northeast Afghanistan is for China, north Afghanistan is for Russia, the west of Afghanistan is for Iran and the south Afghanistan is for the Persian Gulf, because it is 150 miles and they could keep an eye on the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz and all this.
The other thing is that if you look throughout the history at what the United States has done, they made quick deals with the Taliban. If you look at the Clinton Administration, when the Taliban was in power I had the pleasure to go to the White House and talk with Clinton and his wife and I told them: “What you are doing in Afghanistan, with Taliban is killing these people?”
Because the Unocal Company, which is a California-based company, contributed money to his election. Clinton made a deal with them, they said: “Okay, as long as Taliban could bring stability in Afghanistan, then there will be this pipeline which is coming from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean.
So, Clinton didn’t give a damn about what Taliban was doing to the Afghan people and Afghan women, and all this. All he was concerned about was how this pipeline should go. He didn’t care about Democracy, he didn’t care about anything. The only thing he cared about was that this pipeline could go so that he could pay back the Unocal who gave him a lot of money in his election.
Right now, this Obama regime is doing exactly the same thing. They want to make a deal with the Devil and they are selling the Afghan people. And then…
Naturally I don’t blame Russia, I don’t blame China, I don’t blame India and all these big powers, they are very nervous because if they leave a lot of these countries such as Pakistan, everybody will arm their own ally, there will be a war. And this war is going to spread, it has already spread to Pakistan and it’s going to spread to the former Soviet Republics, Islamic Republics of Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, and that will have a major impact on the future of Russia.
Robles: And what role do you see for Russia right now, in the short term and in the long term?
Gulzad: Russia has a major role. I don’t care what people say that Russia is finished and all this kind of stuff. The people in Afghanistan and in the area are looking forward to see Russia play a major role in the politics of that area. The people of Afghanistan always had good relations with Russia.
You were listening to an interview with Dr. Zalmay Gulzad. He is a Professor at Harold Washington College in Chicago. You can find part two on our website at english.ruvr.
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Voice of Russia
June 23, 2013
U.S. courts Taliban to keep nine bases in Afghanistan – Zalmay Gulzad
Audio at URL above
The situation in Afghanistan after more than 12 years of U.S. occupation is getting worse by the day. The United States continues to support and make deals with the Taliban in order to guarantee that their designs for the country are fulfilled, most importantly keeping 9 military bases in the country after the official withdrawal of troops in 2014. President Karzai and the Afghan people are tired of the U.S. double-dealing and have decided to stop all negotiations.
Hello! This is John Robles, I’m talking with Dr. Zalmay Gulzad. He is a Professor at Harold Washington College in Chicago in the Political Science Department.
Robles: Hello Sir! How are you this evening?
Gulzad: Very good, thank you very much.
Robles: First question: can you give our listeners a little bit of an update? And we’d really like to hear what you think about this situation currently in Afghanistan, especially with this kind switch of events that are happening right now, as far as Russia supporting Karzai etc?
Gulzad: The situation is that the area is totally in chaos. Afghanistan, Iran, Syria and Turkey and all these areas are in trouble.
What Afghanistan really wanted to have is: the Afghans must lead the peace talk, that was the goal. What happened was that the United States as usual, we have seen the history, the United States has this very strong alliance with the Pakistani military, and also with the Pakistani secret police, the ISI. Everybody in the world knows that Talibans are supported by the Pakistani military and by the ISI secret police of Pakistan.
So, Americans made a deal with them like: “Okay, we want to have nine bases in Afghanistan. This negotiation is going on and while it is going on, we want you to create a situation for us, to tell the Taliban to come to Qatar and sit down with us and talk, we could create something that they would not attack the American bases in Afghanistan and also would not attack the United States from Afghanistan.”
So, if that is happening, America and Taliban are going to talk, the Pakistani military and the ISI, because they are good allies and the United States is giving $2 billion a year to the Pakistani military, they said “Fine!”, they created this.
Robles: Karzai, wasn’t he agreeing to the same thing, to allow bases to remain in Afghanistan? So what happened there?
Gulzad: Karzai has agreed mostly that nine bases should be given to Afghanistan. One condition isd there that most Afghans are asking the United States, that the United States should push the Pakistani military not to support any more, while the Americans and the NATO are leaving, they should not support the Taliban, so that Afghanistan has peace. But the United States is largely saying to Afghans that we cannot do that. So, the objective is this: America wants to make a secret deal, to sell Afghanistan to Pakistan and to the Taliban and the Afghans are not going to accept it.
The other thing is the building which was dedicated to the Afghan Taliban, they’ve put the name on it: Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan, and they were flying the Taliban flag. Immediately the Afghan Government and the Afghan officials, they objected to that, that is why Karzai got mad.
Okay, this is supposed to be: you are recognizing Taliban as an entity. And Taliban also used that office to send their delegation to Iran. They were trying to use it. So, that’s why today’s situation got very bad.
Karzai says that we are not going to talk to you anymore about the American troops staying in Afghanistan until things change. So then Kerry, called Karzai in Kabul and he said that the Taliban will not fly the American, I mean the Taliban flag over the building and also they will not call it the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.
So, the problem is this: the mistrust between the Afghan Government, the Afghan people and the United States, is because the United States always supported the Taliban, (Al Qaeda is supported by the Taliban), and the United States is having this secret alliance with the Pakistani military, even though there was some sort of election in Pakistan after which the Muslim League, which is a very religious party, won the election. But still, the military is in control.
Nawaz Sharif will become the Prime Minister, he was overthrown by Gen Musharraf in 1991. He was in jail, he was in exile in London and Saudi Arabia but he’s back now, he is the Prime Minister, but he is afraid of the military. The military is calling all the shots in Pakistan.
Robles: What are the chances right now of things being worked out, I mean where do you see the Taliban going? What is the future looking like right now?
Gulzad: The future looks like this: United States wanted to make a deal with Pakistan and with Taliban in order to get their bases, because the United States always looks for their own interests, short term.
As I said before, the nine bases are very important because they are in the north of Afghanistan, west Afghanistan, central Afghanistan, out of Afghanistan and east Afghanistan.
East Afghanistan, northeast Afghanistan is for China, north Afghanistan is for Russia, the west of Afghanistan is for Iran and the south Afghanistan is for the Persian Gulf, because it is 150 miles and they could keep an eye on the Persian Gulf, the Strait of Hormuz and all this.
The other thing is that if you look throughout the history at what the United States has done, they made quick deals with the Taliban. If you look at the Clinton Administration, when the Taliban was in power I had the pleasure to go to the White House and talk with Clinton and his wife and I told them: “What you are doing in Afghanistan, with Taliban is killing these people?”
Because the Unocal Company, which is a California-based company, contributed money to his election. Clinton made a deal with them, they said: “Okay, as long as Taliban could bring stability in Afghanistan, then there will be this pipeline which is coming from Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to the Indian Ocean.
So, Clinton didn’t give a damn about what Taliban was doing to the Afghan people and Afghan women, and all this. All he was concerned about was how this pipeline should go. He didn’t care about Democracy, he didn’t care about anything. The only thing he cared about was that this pipeline could go so that he could pay back the Unocal who gave him a lot of money in his election.
Right now, this Obama regime is doing exactly the same thing. They want to make a deal with the Devil and they are selling the Afghan people. And then…
Naturally I don’t blame Russia, I don’t blame China, I don’t blame India and all these big powers, they are very nervous because if they leave a lot of these countries such as Pakistan, everybody will arm their own ally, there will be a war. And this war is going to spread, it has already spread to Pakistan and it’s going to spread to the former Soviet Republics, Islamic Republics of Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan, and that will have a major impact on the future of Russia.
Robles: And what role do you see for Russia right now, in the short term and in the long term?
Gulzad: Russia has a major role. I don’t care what people say that Russia is finished and all this kind of stuff. The people in Afghanistan and in the area are looking forward to see Russia play a major role in the politics of that area. The people of Afghanistan always had good relations with Russia.
You were listening to an interview with Dr. Zalmay Gulzad. He is a Professor at Harold Washington College in Chicago. You can find part two on our website at english.ruvr.
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Richard Roper" richard_roper
Ben,
it is almost certainly YEARS.
The scheme is reliably dated from starting in 2001. The date I keep getting for training is 2007. But of course it is technically true that it has only been going onfor months as it was previously done by Blackwater, the Brits and the French.
Oh they always were US paramilitary Assets and not "rebels"
--- On Sun, 23/6/13, mart unknown <martmns@gmail.
From: mart unknown <martmns@gmail.
Subject: [stopnato] Surprise! Surprise! The U.S. Has Been Secretly Training Syrian Rebels for Months.
To: stopnato@yahoogroup
Date: Sunday, 23 June, 2013, 1:51
Forward from mart
Please distribute widely
Surprise! Surprise! The U.S. Has Been Secretly Training Syrian Rebels for Months.
I'm not sure why this 'Atlantic Wire/Yahoo News' news story - despite the months of ongoing U.S. government lies, denials and feigned ignorance and innocence - ie even really "news"
Mart
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http://news.
The Atlantic Wire, via Yahoo News
http://news.
The U.S. Has Been Secretly Training Syrian Rebels for Months
By Dashiell Bennett | The Atlantic Wire – Fri, Jun 21,
President Obama has ignited a debate about if and how the U.S. should get involved in the Syria Civil War, but it turns out the debate might have ended a long time ago. The Los Angeles Times reported on Friday that CIA agents and Special Forces units have been giving Free Syrian Army soldiers a crash course in using anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry at secret U.S. training bases in Jordan and Turkey.
The training began last November and involves taking a couple dozen rebels at a time, and teaching them how to use the heavy weaponry. Around 100 total rebels from across Syria have taken part.
While the Americans did not give the Syrians weapons to take back to the front, arms shipments from Saudi Arabia and Qatar were meant to supply the rebel forces. However, the L.A. Times report says the heavy weapons were slow to arrive and small in number.
The training programs also apparently served a dual purpose, as it they gave CIA officers an opportunity
The U.S. has publicly stated that the Assad government has used chemical
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Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:50 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff
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Voice of Russia
June 24, 2013
Snowden would be better off in Cuba, chance of coup d'état is much less than elsewhere - Blum
Audio at URL above
Speaking about the latest Edward Snowden’s travel ‘plans’ and the confusion the world has been exposed to in the media on the subject of his whereabouts, Mr. William Blum, an American author, historian and a longstanding critic of US foreign policy claims that Cuba would be Snowden’s best bet, as it’s “the most guaranteed place not to buckle to any kind of American pressure” and “the chance of coup d'état is much less than elsewhere”. He also thinks the American whistleblower allegedly chose Ecuador “because of their record with Julian Assange” and says the Russians are purposefully making the confusion in the media to make it difficult for the CIA to capture or assassinate NSA leaker.
Robles: I’d really like to get your opinion on the whole Snowden affair, since this is something I think you are pretty close to, as far as the whistleblowing. What do you make of the whole situation? And what do you think his chances are of making it to Ecuador, and why Ecuador?
Blum: This is a very brave man. I hope he makes it somewhere. I think that Cuba would be his best bet, as it is the most guaranteed place not to buckle to any kind of American pressure. Where is he now, I have no idea. I think all the confusion that we’ve been exposed to in the media is not by chance. I think the Russians are purposely doing this to make it difficult for the CIA to capture or assassinate Snowden, which in fact they would love to do. This is all I know about it.
Robles: You know a lot about the South American countries, Latin American countries and the instability in a lot of those countries. Why would he go to Ecuador, I mean it is a small country? I’m sure the knowledge he has, I don’t see what real huge use it would have to Ecuadorian intelligence.
Blum: His knowledge concerning who was being spied upon by the U.S. Government honestly would not be of much value to any foreign nation. I don’t think that’s the issue.
I think he chose Ecuador because of their record with Julian Assange. They have proven themselves to be capable protectors of someone like him. And so, that’s probably the only reason he chose Ecuador. Of course, President Correa is a leftist and the people under him in high positions are also leftist, so that’s a protection.
Robles: Latin American countries can be very volatile. What if Correa is voted out of office next time and some right-wing president comes in?
Blum: Correa was re-elected as president within the past six months I think.
Robles: Yes, he was.
Blum: So, he stays for a few years. Although, I would not shut out the CIA instigating a coup. They tried in the past to do the same. But now they may be more serious about it. They could certainly pour their heart and soul into it, and use all the assets and all their wealth, and their wealth is their main asset and they can buy almost anything and anyone. So, that’s the reason I think Snowden would be better off in Cuba, the chance of coup d'état is much less than elsewhere.
Robles: Yes, sure, I mean they’ve been trying to assassinate Castro... what was it?
Blum: Yes they’ve been trying to assassinate Castro 600 times or so, but haven’t succeeded.
Robles: Why didn’t he stay in Russia, I mean there is a very little chance that Russia would buckle the U.S.?
Blum: Russia does not want to have all these headaches that might cause. And keep in mind, this is not quite the Cold War. Russia is not a Communist country, it is not at war ideologically with the US. It is at war on a different level. The US has surrounded Russia with military bases. It’s incorporated many of the former Soviet republics into the NATO and all of them are not far from Russia.
So, the US is really threatening Russia and Russia has a reason to be hostile towards the U.S., not as much as it has been in the Cold War, but enough. They could have kept Snowden there. I don’t know. He may even still be there, as far as we know he’s still there.
Robles: I think if Russia made a decision to give him an asylum, and the Russian officials have said he would have been granted it had the he requested it, I’m sure Russia would be much more in a position to protect him. It is not that easy for the CIA to operate here and manipulate the politicians and everything, as I think it is in many Latin American countries. And the same thing is for China. First, I thought maybe he went from Hong Kong to mainland China, but, apparently not.
Blum: The point is that I don’t know what’s going to happen. He could wind up in Russia or in Ecuador, or Cuba, or Venezuela. But he is not going to wind up in California, I’m sure of that.
Robles: What do you think the CIA or and NSA is going to try to do to get him back? How far do think they are going to go?
Blum: Physically get him back?
Robles: Or get rid of him.
Blum: It depends on how many opportunities they have. The Russians and the other countries we’ve mentioned have to be super careful to avoid giving the CIA any special opportunity, which probably is why we have all this confusion. This is a some kind of master plan.
Robles: Once he gets to Ecuador, if that’s where he’s going, what do you think is going to happen?
Blum: It is hard to imagine him living a peaceful life there. He will always be looking over his shoulder. The CIA can have 1000 assassins induced with a large reward. So, I can't see him having a peaceful and stable life there. But he must have sorted out all this in advance, I hope he has a master plan.
Robles: Well, I think he was very clever in getting out of their clutches and getting to Hong Kong. That was actually a pretty wise move, because he was able to get there without a visa or anything. So, I guess he fell off the grid for a while. What’s your opinion of the revelations that he’s made? And how do you see his case in contrast to an average espionage case?
Blum: Compared to the WikiLeaks, it is not quite as dramatic as WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks exposed all kinds of very-very embarrassing things concerning the US foreign policy. The Snowden’s revelations, it is just one big embarrassment, it is not 100 different small embarrassments. It is just the embarrassment that they were spying even more than most people thought. I’ve seen many people who assumed that the NSA was covering everyone, those people would not be surprised. To me, it was not quite as embarrassing to the US foreign policy as the WikiLeaks revelations were.
Robles: To the world’s public though, I mean I have always had this suspicion and I think you had, and any thinking person on the Internet has had this suspicion that they are being watched or something. But this is right in our face now – we are all being watched, we are all being spied on, they are into absolutely everything. Do you personally feel uncomfortable getting online anymore? What effect do you think this is going to have on the Internet?
Blum: I was always careful about what I said online and emails. That’s not going to change… well, it brings more cautiousness than usual, but not much. So, to me it is not going to be a big change.
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Voice of Russia
June 24, 2013
Snowden would be better off in Cuba, chance of coup d'état is much less than elsewhere - Blum
Audio at URL above
Speaking about the latest Edward Snowden’s travel ‘plans’ and the confusion the world has been exposed to in the media on the subject of his whereabouts, Mr. William Blum, an American author, historian and a longstanding critic of US foreign policy claims that Cuba would be Snowden’s best bet, as it’s “the most guaranteed place not to buckle to any kind of American pressure” and “the chance of coup d'état is much less than elsewhere”. He also thinks the American whistleblower allegedly chose Ecuador “because of their record with Julian Assange” and says the Russians are purposefully making the confusion in the media to make it difficult for the CIA to capture or assassinate NSA leaker.
Robles: I’d really like to get your opinion on the whole Snowden affair, since this is something I think you are pretty close to, as far as the whistleblowing. What do you make of the whole situation? And what do you think his chances are of making it to Ecuador, and why Ecuador?
Blum: This is a very brave man. I hope he makes it somewhere. I think that Cuba would be his best bet, as it is the most guaranteed place not to buckle to any kind of American pressure. Where is he now, I have no idea. I think all the confusion that we’ve been exposed to in the media is not by chance. I think the Russians are purposely doing this to make it difficult for the CIA to capture or assassinate Snowden, which in fact they would love to do. This is all I know about it.
Robles: You know a lot about the South American countries, Latin American countries and the instability in a lot of those countries. Why would he go to Ecuador, I mean it is a small country? I’m sure the knowledge he has, I don’t see what real huge use it would have to Ecuadorian intelligence.
Blum: His knowledge concerning who was being spied upon by the U.S. Government honestly would not be of much value to any foreign nation. I don’t think that’s the issue.
I think he chose Ecuador because of their record with Julian Assange. They have proven themselves to be capable protectors of someone like him. And so, that’s probably the only reason he chose Ecuador. Of course, President Correa is a leftist and the people under him in high positions are also leftist, so that’s a protection.
Robles: Latin American countries can be very volatile. What if Correa is voted out of office next time and some right-wing president comes in?
Blum: Correa was re-elected as president within the past six months I think.
Robles: Yes, he was.
Blum: So, he stays for a few years. Although, I would not shut out the CIA instigating a coup. They tried in the past to do the same. But now they may be more serious about it. They could certainly pour their heart and soul into it, and use all the assets and all their wealth, and their wealth is their main asset and they can buy almost anything and anyone. So, that’s the reason I think Snowden would be better off in Cuba, the chance of coup d'état is much less than elsewhere.
Robles: Yes, sure, I mean they’ve been trying to assassinate Castro... what was it?
Blum: Yes they’ve been trying to assassinate Castro 600 times or so, but haven’t succeeded.
Robles: Why didn’t he stay in Russia, I mean there is a very little chance that Russia would buckle the U.S.?
Blum: Russia does not want to have all these headaches that might cause. And keep in mind, this is not quite the Cold War. Russia is not a Communist country, it is not at war ideologically with the US. It is at war on a different level. The US has surrounded Russia with military bases. It’s incorporated many of the former Soviet republics into the NATO and all of them are not far from Russia.
So, the US is really threatening Russia and Russia has a reason to be hostile towards the U.S., not as much as it has been in the Cold War, but enough. They could have kept Snowden there. I don’t know. He may even still be there, as far as we know he’s still there.
Robles: I think if Russia made a decision to give him an asylum, and the Russian officials have said he would have been granted it had the he requested it, I’m sure Russia would be much more in a position to protect him. It is not that easy for the CIA to operate here and manipulate the politicians and everything, as I think it is in many Latin American countries. And the same thing is for China. First, I thought maybe he went from Hong Kong to mainland China, but, apparently not.
Blum: The point is that I don’t know what’s going to happen. He could wind up in Russia or in Ecuador, or Cuba, or Venezuela. But he is not going to wind up in California, I’m sure of that.
Robles: What do you think the CIA or and NSA is going to try to do to get him back? How far do think they are going to go?
Blum: Physically get him back?
Robles: Or get rid of him.
Blum: It depends on how many opportunities they have. The Russians and the other countries we’ve mentioned have to be super careful to avoid giving the CIA any special opportunity, which probably is why we have all this confusion. This is a some kind of master plan.
Robles: Once he gets to Ecuador, if that’s where he’s going, what do you think is going to happen?
Blum: It is hard to imagine him living a peaceful life there. He will always be looking over his shoulder. The CIA can have 1000 assassins induced with a large reward. So, I can't see him having a peaceful and stable life there. But he must have sorted out all this in advance, I hope he has a master plan.
Robles: Well, I think he was very clever in getting out of their clutches and getting to Hong Kong. That was actually a pretty wise move, because he was able to get there without a visa or anything. So, I guess he fell off the grid for a while. What’s your opinion of the revelations that he’s made? And how do you see his case in contrast to an average espionage case?
Blum: Compared to the WikiLeaks, it is not quite as dramatic as WikiLeaks. WikiLeaks exposed all kinds of very-very embarrassing things concerning the US foreign policy. The Snowden’s revelations, it is just one big embarrassment, it is not 100 different small embarrassments. It is just the embarrassment that they were spying even more than most people thought. I’ve seen many people who assumed that the NSA was covering everyone, those people would not be surprised. To me, it was not quite as embarrassing to the US foreign policy as the WikiLeaks revelations were.
Robles: To the world’s public though, I mean I have always had this suspicion and I think you had, and any thinking person on the Internet has had this suspicion that they are being watched or something. But this is right in our face now – we are all being watched, we are all being spied on, they are into absolutely everything. Do you personally feel uncomfortable getting online anymore? What effect do you think this is going to have on the Internet?
Blum: I was always careful about what I said online and emails. That’s not going to change… well, it brings more cautiousness than usual, but not much. So, to me it is not going to be a big change.
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Ministry of Defence of Georgia
June 26, 2013
North Atlantic Council (NAC) visit to Georgia/Meeting of the NATO-Georgia Commission 2013
At the invitation of the Georgian authorities, the North Atlantic Council will visit Georgia on 26-27 June 2013. The NATO Delegation will be chaired by NATO Secretary General Mr. Anders Fogh Rasmussen. It will be the third visit of the NAC to Georgia in the last five years. The NAC visit attests to the intensive relations and successful cooperation between Georgia and the Alliance.
In the framework of the visit, the NATO-Georgia Commission will be held with the participation of Georgian Prime-Minister Bidzina Ivanishvili. The NAC will meet with the President of Georgia and members of the Parliament. In the framework of the visit, the Secretary General will hold bilateral meetings with the Georgian Prime-Minister, the President, the Chairman of the Parliament, the leader of the Parliamentary minority and the Minister of Foreign Affairs. The Secretary General will have a working dinner with the Minister of Defence and the Secretary of the Security Council. The NATO Secretary General will also deliver a speech at the National Library in a meeting with students, and will greet Georgian soldiers prior to their departure for participation in the ISAF mission in Afganistan.
NATO Ambassadors will also hold meetings with the representatives of non-governmental and international organizations and the media.
The North Atlantic Council held its first visit to Georgia on 15-16 September 2008. In the framework of the visit, the frame document establishing the NATO-Georgia Commission was signed, and the first meeting of the Commission was held. The NATO-Georgia Commission serves as a forum for both political consultations and practical cooperation between Georgia and the Alliance to assist Georgia in achieving its goal of integration into NATO. The Commission facilitates political dialogue between the Alliance and Georgia and deepens cooperation on all relevant levels.
The second NAC visit to Georgia was held on 9-10 November 2011. The meeting of the NATO-Georgia Commission adopted a joint statement wherein 28 NATO members welcomed the achievements of Georgia’s reform process, reaffirmed their commitment to the decision of the Bucharest Summit and their strong support for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Georgia.
The North Atlantic Council is the principal political decision-making body within NATO. The Council is chaired by the NATO Secretary General. It brings together high level representatives of each member country to discuss policy or operational questions that require collective decisions. All members have an equal right to express their views and share in the consensus on which decisions are based. The NAC meets at least every week, and often more frequently, at the level of permanent representatives; it meets twice a year at the level of ministers of foreign affairs, three times a year at the level of ministers of defence, and occasionally at the summit level, with the participation of prime ministers and heads of state and government.
Ministry of Defence of Georgia
June 26, 2013
North Atlantic Council (NAC) visit to Georgia/Meeting of the NATO-Georgia Commission 2013
At the invitation of the Georgian authorities, the North Atlantic Council will visit Georgia on 26-27 June 2013. The NATO Delegation will be chaired by NATO Secretary General Mr. Anders Fogh Rasmussen. It will be the third visit of the NAC to Georgia in the last five years. The NAC visit attests to the intensive relations and successful cooperation between Georgia and the Alliance.
In the framework of the visit, the NATO-Georgia Commission will be held with the participation of Georgian Prime-Minister Bidzina Ivanishvili. The NAC will meet with the President of Georgia and members of the Parliament. In the framework of the visit, the Secretary General will hold bilateral meetings with the Georgian Prime-Minister, the President, the Chairman of the Parliament, the leader of the Parliamentary minority and the Minister of Foreign Affairs. The Secretary General will have a working dinner with the Minister of Defence and the Secretary of the Security Council. The NATO Secretary General will also deliver a speech at the National Library in a meeting with students, and will greet Georgian soldiers prior to their departure for participation in the ISAF mission in Afganistan.
NATO Ambassadors will also hold meetings with the representatives of non-governmental and international organizations and the media.
The North Atlantic Council held its first visit to Georgia on 15-16 September 2008. In the framework of the visit, the frame document establishing the NATO-Georgia Commission was signed, and the first meeting of the Commission was held. The NATO-Georgia Commission serves as a forum for both political consultations and practical cooperation between Georgia and the Alliance to assist Georgia in achieving its goal of integration into NATO. The Commission facilitates political dialogue between the Alliance and Georgia and deepens cooperation on all relevant levels.
The second NAC visit to Georgia was held on 9-10 November 2011. The meeting of the NATO-Georgia Commission adopted a joint statement wherein 28 NATO members welcomed the achievements of Georgia’s reform process, reaffirmed their commitment to the decision of the Bucharest Summit and their strong support for the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Georgia.
The North Atlantic Council is the principal political decision-making body within NATO. The Council is chaired by the NATO Secretary General. It brings together high level representatives of each member country to discuss policy or operational questions that require collective decisions. All members have an equal right to express their views and share in the consensus on which decisions are based. The NAC meets at least every week, and often more frequently, at the level of permanent representatives; it meets twice a year at the level of ministers of foreign affairs, three times a year at the level of ministers of defence, and occasionally at the summit level, with the participation of prime ministers and heads of state and government.
