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Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:21 pm (PDT) . Posted by:
"Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff
http://voiceofrussi
Voice of Russia
September 28, 2013
Obama deserves Nobel War Prize – Bolivian President
President Evo Morales of Bolivia has deplored the fact that the Nobel Committee made an error when awarding the US President Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, insisting that the award should have been different, namely the Nobel War Prize, according to the Latin American media reports on Friday.
Morales said this in a statement in Caracas, where he’d arrived to meet another vociferous critic of the US policy, President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela.
Morales arrived in Caracas straight from New York in the wake of his attendance of the UN General Assembly session.
According to the Bolivian leader, the number of wars around the world has been growing since Obama came to power, armed conflicts continued specifically in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and the last but not least, in Syria.
Morales claims Obama feels he has the right to invade any country boasting mineral resources without seeking any UN approval first.
According to the Bolivian President, the situation prompts (us) to consider the need for setting up an international tribunal of nations that would have the authority to try anyone, including the US President.
Morales also said he would contact some Nobel Peace Prize winners and human rights organizations to start work on the proposal. He said that someone should be able to stop Obama and that things shouldn’t be left as they are now.
On Thursday, the Bolivian leader also called for holding working meetings in the UN framework in neutral countries, since he believes that the world leaders who adhere to anti-imperialist positions do not feel safe in New York.
According to Morales, these kinds of meetings should be held on a rotating basis, alternately in Switzerland, Austria and Brazil.
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Voice of Russia
September 28, 2013
Obama deserves Nobel War Prize – Bolivian President
President Evo Morales of Bolivia has deplored the fact that the Nobel Committee made an error when awarding the US President Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, insisting that the award should have been different, namely the Nobel War Prize, according to the Latin American media reports on Friday.
Morales said this in a statement in Caracas, where he’d arrived to meet another vociferous critic of the US policy, President Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela.
Morales arrived in Caracas straight from New York in the wake of his attendance of the UN General Assembly session.
According to the Bolivian leader, the number of wars around the world has been growing since Obama came to power, armed conflicts continued specifically in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya and the last but not least, in Syria.
Morales claims Obama feels he has the right to invade any country boasting mineral resources without seeking any UN approval first.
According to the Bolivian President, the situation prompts (us) to consider the need for setting up an international tribunal of nations that would have the authority to try anyone, including the US President.
Morales also said he would contact some Nobel Peace Prize winners and human rights organizations to start work on the proposal. He said that someone should be able to stop Obama and that things shouldn’t be left as they are now.
On Thursday, the Bolivian leader also called for holding working meetings in the UN framework in neutral countries, since he believes that the world leaders who adhere to anti-imperialist positions do not feel safe in New York.
According to Morales, these kinds of meetings should be held on a rotating basis, alternately in Switzerland, Austria and Brazil.
Voice of Russia, RIA
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Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:03 am (PDT) . Posted by:
"Rick Rozoff" rwrozoff
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Voice of Russia
September 29, 2013
UN resolution on Syria may allow for actions against supporters of rebels - Rick Rozoff
Audio at URL above
Interview is longer than transcripts indicate
The full text of the United Nations Resolution on Syria has been published and thanks to the efforts of the Russian Federation and China is one of the most balanced of such documents in the last century. However there remains the threat of a western attack on Syria. In an interview with the Voice of Russia World Service, regular contributor Rick Rozoff also stated that there exists language in the resolution that could even allow for measures to be taken against an party that provides or supports the Syrian “opposition” with chemical and or other non-conventional weapons.
Hello this is John Robles I am speaking with Rick Rozoff, the owner of Stop NATO and the Stop NATO international mailing list.
Robles: Can you tell us about the United Nations Resolution on Syria? Are there any holes or loops in it that the United States might use to go ahead with a bombing campaign on that country?
Rozoff: I fear there is, indeed. Actually there are two that I can think of immediately. The resolution itself was adopted unanimously by the five permanent members of the UN Security Council - Russia, China, France, Britain, the United States - and the current ten rotating members states for the most part - it makes some effort to be balance, better than what, I’m sure, the U.S., Britain and France would have wanted, and that’s because of Russia in the first place. The Russian and Chinese influence, I think, trying to introduce a balanced and moderate resolution..
Presumably by all sides, though when it comes to compliance issues and ultimately the use of Chapter 7, as they're called, measures against the perpetrators of the violations of chemical weapons regulations, only the state could be held accountable. I hardly see how the ragtag and irregular military forces supported by the West could be held accountable. They couldn't be sanctioned, for example and I don’t know if they could be bombed.
But what’s most alarming is that the penultimate demand in the resolution, number 21, and I’m reading it verbatim, "decides in the event of non-compliance with this resolution including unauthorized transfer of chemical weapons or any use of chemical weapons by anyone in the Syrian Arab Republic, to impose measures under Chapter 7 of the United Nations Charter" and what’s important to realize in that, there are several articles under Chapter 7, but the operative one and the one that we are most concerned about right now is Article 42, which reads as follows: "Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in the earlier Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, they may take such actions by air, sea and land forces as it may be necessary to maintain and restore international peace and security and these include," I’m quoting again, "demonstration
members of the United Nations"
And what we are talking about, of course, most recently is some equivalent of UN Resolution 1973 in March of 2011 that led to, contrary to what the Resolution asserts, a full six-month war by the Pentagon and NATO against the nation of Libya. So, the resolution passed recently does not stipulate Chapter 7 measures, I mean that’s the Russian contribution to have that left out, but at the end it leaves a little bit of room for the West – the United States, Britain, France and their allies – to come back to the Security Council and demand implementation of Chapter 7 military intervention against the government of Syria.
Robles: Right. But that would still require the approval of all the members of the UN Security Council, wouldn’t it?
Rozoff: Actually, it wouldn’t have to be all members. One permanent member alone could veto it, Russia or China.
In theory it would be unanimous but not necessarily. Russia and China could abstain, vote against and then not veto it, and this is what happened with Libya indeed. So either assent or passive assent is guaranteed by voting for or abstaining. Or even voting against and not vetoing.
We’ll see, but even though I think that we can pause for a little while and hope that in contravention of the UN Security Council and the recently passed Resolution 2118, the U.S. will not once again act outside of and in direct contradiction to the United Nations, as it did 14 years ago against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and as it did ten years ago against Iraq and as it has in any number of other cases since the creation of the United Nations.
So I think, a couple of things: there is still the real threat of a US and allied military action against Syria regardless of this resolution but I think that we can agree that adept Russian diplomatic initiative has put a spoke in the wheel of the Western war machine.
Voice of Russia
September 29, 2013
UN resolution on Syria may allow for actions against supporters of rebels - Rick Rozoff
Audio at URL above
Interview is longer than transcripts indicate
The full text of the United Nations Resolution on Syria has been published and thanks to the efforts of the Russian Federation and China is one of the most balanced of such documents in the last century. However there remains the threat of a western attack on Syria. In an interview with the Voice of Russia World Service, regular contributor Rick Rozoff also stated that there exists language in the resolution that could even allow for measures to be taken against an party that provides or supports the Syrian “opposition” with chemical and or other non-conventional weapons.
Hello this is John Robles I am speaking with Rick Rozoff, the owner of Stop NATO and the Stop NATO international mailing list.
Robles: Can you tell us about the United Nations Resolution on Syria? Are there any holes or loops in it that the United States might use to go ahead with a bombing campaign on that country?
Rozoff: I fear there is, indeed. Actually there are two that I can think of immediately. The resolution itself was adopted unanimously by the five permanent members of the UN Security Council - Russia, China, France, Britain, the United States - and the current ten rotating members states for the most part - it makes some effort to be balance, better than what, I’m sure, the U.S., Britain and France would have wanted, and that’s because of Russia in the first place. The Russian and Chinese influence, I think, trying to introduce a balanced and moderate resolution..
Presumably by all sides, though when it comes to compliance issues and ultimately the use of Chapter 7, as they're called, measures against the perpetrators of the violations of chemical weapons regulations, only the state could be held accountable. I hardly see how the ragtag and irregular military forces supported by the West could be held accountable. They couldn't be sanctioned, for example and I don’t know if they could be bombed.
But what’s most alarming is that the penultimate demand in the resolution, number 21, and I’m reading it verbatim, "decides in the event of non-compliance with this resolution including unauthorized transfer of chemical weapons or any use of chemical weapons by anyone in the Syrian Arab Republic, to impose measures under Chapter 7 of the United Nations Charter" and what’s important to realize in that, there are several articles under Chapter 7, but the operative one and the one that we are most concerned about right now is Article 42, which reads as follows: "Should the Security Council consider that measures provided for in the earlier Article 41 would be inadequate or have proved to be inadequate, they may take such actions by air, sea and land forces as it may be necessary to maintain and restore international peace and security and these include," I’m quoting again, "demonstration
members of the United Nations"
And what we are talking about, of course, most recently is some equivalent of UN Resolution 1973 in March of 2011 that led to, contrary to what the Resolution asserts, a full six-month war by the Pentagon and NATO against the nation of Libya. So, the resolution passed recently does not stipulate Chapter 7 measures, I mean that’s the Russian contribution to have that left out, but at the end it leaves a little bit of room for the West – the United States, Britain, France and their allies – to come back to the Security Council and demand implementation of Chapter 7 military intervention against the government of Syria.
Robles: Right. But that would still require the approval of all the members of the UN Security Council, wouldn’t it?
Rozoff: Actually, it wouldn’t have to be all members. One permanent member alone could veto it, Russia or China.
In theory it would be unanimous but not necessarily. Russia and China could abstain, vote against and then not veto it, and this is what happened with Libya indeed. So either assent or passive assent is guaranteed by voting for or abstaining. Or even voting against and not vetoing.
We’ll see, but even though I think that we can pause for a little while and hope that in contravention of the UN Security Council and the recently passed Resolution 2118, the U.S. will not once again act outside of and in direct contradiction to the United Nations, as it did 14 years ago against the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and as it did ten years ago against Iraq and as it has in any number of other cases since the creation of the United Nations.
So I think, a couple of things: there is still the real threat of a US and allied military action against Syria regardless of this resolution but I think that we can agree that adept Russian diplomatic initiative has put a spoke in the wheel of the Western war machine.
